China’s Arms Industry Makes Global Inroads – NYTimes.com

Turkey buys Chines, not American.

Industry executives and arms-sales analysts say the Chinese probably beat out their more established rivals by significantly undercutting them on price, offering their system at $3 billion. Nonetheless, Turkey’s selection of a Chinese state-owned manufacturer is a breakthrough for China, a nation that has set its sights on moving up the value chain in arms technology and establishing itself as a credible competitor in the global weapons market.

“This is a remarkable win for the Chinese arms industry,” said Pieter Wezeman, a senior researcher at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, which tracks arms sales and transfers.

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11 thoughts on “China’s Arms Industry Makes Global Inroads – NYTimes.com

  1. jbs4395 says:

    For a long time, we’ve seen the China threat coming. I think this is a sure sign that China is indeed making its mark in the world and being accepted by other nations as a rising power. What should be our response to this? We need to find cheaper ways to build weapons. We need to focus our efforts on our economy and prove to the world that America is still on top. China still has a ways to go. If we can fix our economic problems within our own nation, I don’t think we’ll have too much to worry about. If not…. this could mean trouble.

  2. heartleeharman says:

    One of the things this article mentioned that I found really interesting was that China is making significant progress in the arms industry because they do not make demands to conditions about the buyer’s government or human right’s record. They don’t really care. As long as they can pay, they will sell to them. Which is very different from the US standpoint. I think that this will cause significant tension between the US and China as the US tries to pressure China to be more selective in who they sell their weapons too and as China broadens their market, possibly to include countries like Iran or North Korea.

  3. haleyroberts says:

    I thought this article was interesting because it showed how the balance of power could be shifting. Why would Turkey implement Chinese technology if it is not compatible with other NATO technology. I think there are plans for further Chinese weapon technology in Turkey’s future, and it will be interesting to see the United State’s reaction along the road.

    • rgettys says:

      If it costs less than the 3 billion saved to integrate Chinese technology, it economically makes sense to buy from China. Also, it may be a tough transition, but the shift may be more cost effective in the long run for Turkey, once specialists are employed to integrate cheaper Chinese technology and become proficient, it will become increasingly cheaper to buy the equipment with a lower price tag from China and to integrate it into other technologies. If other Nato countries follow suit of buying the cheaper tech, Turkey will also have an edge and be able to pull in revenue and diplomatic ties employ those specialists to help out other countries.

  4. jacobbills says:

    I see very good reasons for arms systems being expensive. Price is one way to discriminate against unscrupulous nations, or at least make them less effective in the long run. Another is complex treaties and agreements, which serves the same purpose but with less market principles. So China really isn’t doing the world much of a service by selling weaponry cheap and without much discrimination. I’m guessing there will be an increase in interstate violence as these decent systems proliferate.

    Now to my bias. I’m not pro-Turkey in the slightest, most of it coming from my Pro-Kurd agenda. I feel that they should be kicked out of NATO (not for this, just in general). Buying weapons from China, while completely legal is probably motivated by more than just cost, though I’m not going to speculate on what. In short, I’m keeping my eye on Turkey.

  5. In response to the Turkey comment, it’s hard for me to believe that Turkey has a hidden agenda with the weapons purchase, especially while trying to maintain a positive image in front of the UN. I am more concerned with China’s decision. Look at most of the developed countries whose arms technology is near the cutting edge – they are very protective of both the technology and the actual products. China is far mor lax about their clientele, and I don’t picture the Chinese saying no to buyers who are willing to put up the right price, with little regard to their intentions. Supposing that the Chinese system is technologically competitive with common modern weaponry, we have big questions floating in the air now.

  6. Turkey is simply making the decision that makes the most economic sense. China is offering them the same kind of weapons at a lower cost, simple as that. However, I wonder because Chinese weapons are not fully established as reputable and reliable weapons yet with many of their origins coming from outdated Soviet technology how wise of a purchase Turkey’s purchase of Chinese rather than American weapons was, purely from a quality perspective. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. This is definitely a big break for China, however, and could legitimize the Chinese weapons brand if all goes well.

  7. alexechu1 says:

    I suppose we saw all this coming for a while. China has been a growing industrial power for years and has been growing internationally in various exporting markets. It will be interesting to see if the change in arms supply affects the political or military environment that the globe is in currently. I can see this trend continuing in the coming years, with China eventually becoming a major producer of high-tech military-industrial arms, with a large contributing factor of this being the growing numbers of Chinese students who are being educated abroad in European and American universities.

  8. I don’t think this should be all that surprising. The United States government has been making a mockery of itself abroad as a result of its conduct back home, and other nations have every right (verging on responsible expectation) to seek economic and military transaction with countries that aren’t as stable and unpredictable as “exceptional” USA or its allies. It makes sense that nations would look to China as a fertile field for current and future business relationships. The fact that it is Turkey making the deal with China is slightly surprising (given its close ties to the USA and the West), but that doesn’t make the fact that this happened any less rational or understandable.

  9. araujophm says:

    This was quite a surprise. I never expected China to develop military weapons that could actually create a competing market for the US. This is good news because it creates a balance of power, but it also creates opportunity for very powerful weapons to fall in the hands of the wrong people. It is very important now to create even more regulations in the international sphere to control gun trade and production.

  10. dbudeiri says:

    I think that this demonstrates that China’s arms industry has found its position among the great powers in the world. It was stated by Turkish officials that China’s technology surpassed its competitors in every way. However, I believe that this isn’t the only reason it was chosen. Turkey’s current situation and future plans surely had a big role in this decision.

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